Thursday, May 22, 2014

Facebook’s “Community Standards” Hypocrisy


Update: 'Virgin Mary Should've Aborted' has been taken down by Facebook! Hopefully it stays down! (Friday 23 May 2014)

2nd update: After nearly a week with the page down, VMSA is back. Facebook's hypocrisy continues. (Thursday 29 May 2014)


I’ve been involved with keeping a Facebook page (www.facebook.com/godorabsurdity) for a few months now, and over the last few months it’s come to my attention that there are a lot of professed atheists online who love to make offensive pages attacking God and Christianity. There are also some pages attacking Islam and Muhammed, but those have less ‘likes’ and seem to be less frequently updated.

Actually it was “Lucy Fur” (a veiled reference to Lucifer) on a Google+ discussion a few weeks ago that first told me about the page ‘Virgin Mary Should’ve Aborted’ (VMSA). I’d never heard of it until then and when I checked it out I was totally shocked. (See my blog post on VMSA here). I reported the page to Facebook and encouraged others to do the same. I also found that others online have been protesting against this group for quite a long time, and actually managed to get the page taken down, but then not long after Facebook allowed it to go up again.

A few days ago we had a small victory, when Facebook reviewed the page ‘Virgin Mary STILL Should’ve Aborted’, and took it down. This page had over 2,500 likes, and was the backup page for ‘Virgin Mary Should’ve Aborted’.  Hopefully the page stays down and this is the beginning of the end for such pages, but given the liberal nature of the staff at Facebook, and the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is a professed atheist, there are no guarantees.

It’s all very well to want freedom of speech. But there are limits in all societies to what can and can’t be said. So the question is on where to draw the line, and whether or not Facebook will actually take their own policies seriously.

Another issue is that freedom of speech is a Christian concept related to human rights. Human rights make sense in the Christian worldview, but not without God. If people want to protest against Christianity, then I support their right to do that, but to do so in such a way as to deliberately cause as much offense as possible is going too far and clearly violates Facebook's policies. 

Here are some of the relevant Facebook policies set out in their “Community Standards”:

Hate Speech: “Facebook does not permit hate speech… we do not permit individuals or groups to attack others based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion…”

Graphic Content: “graphic images shared for sadistic effect or to celebrate or glorify violence have no place on our site.”

Violence and threats
: “Safety is Facebook’s top priority…”

However, Facebook has no problem with the following sites (I’ve censored the F word and included the current number of ‘likes’ for each page):

1. Virgin Mary Should’ve Aborted (includes a cover illustration of an aborted Jesus, Mary smoking a cigar (or is it marijuana?), and Mary saying F*** as she looks at her pregnant stomach). (11,882 likes)


2. F*** your f***ing God, You Ignorant Blinded Dumb F*** (includes a cover illustration of a maniacal God biting a man’s arm and head off and a disemboweled Jesus being eaten by 12 zombies at the Last Supper). (This page also says at the end of their page intro description “Now go piss on a Bible and burn down a church.”) (1,149 likes) (This is the worst page I've ever seen on Facebook - and given the serious nature of advocating criminal activity I've reported this page to the police.)


3. F*** Jesus Christ and F*** Christianity (includes a cover illustration of Jesus wearing the swastika). (387 likes)

4. F*** God (includes a cover illustration of Jesus doing the finger). (304 likes)

5. F*** Muhammed (includes a cover illustration of Muhammed with the words “F*** YOU PEDOPHILE MUHAMMED.”) (61 likes)

6. Muhammed's Mum Should've Aborted (118 likes)

These are just a few of the disgusting pages that Facebook has no problem with, and after reporting them we are told: “We reviewed the page you reported for containing hate speech or symbols and found it doesn’t violate our community standards.”

I am aware that bringing attention to these pages increases the number of people going there and ‘liking’ the pages. However, evil triumphs when good people do nothing, and even if we can’t get these pages taken down straight away, I think that even the average non-Christian can see that these pages are deeply offensive to most people and sick. And that is what the people who run these pages are – sick. Without God, that is the kind of depravity that people can end up in, and the only hope is found in Jesus Christ.

Without God, there is no reason to try and be good, nor is there any foundation for absolute morality. As Jeffrey Dahmer (a.k.a. the Milwaukee cannibal) said: “If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That’s how I thought anyway.”


Come on Facebook – listen to the voice of your customers – because if you don’t you’re going to go down and a few years down the track when some other social media site has taken over you, you’ll sit back and wonder where it all went wrong. Maybe then you’ll remember the many Christians who protested against you that you ignored.

Further reading:
Pro-Life Group Fights "Virgin Mary Should've Aborted" Facebook Page.
Does Facebook have a hypocritical agenda?.

9 comments:

  1. It is a sad representation of the state of humanity. Coexist... Tolerance...
    Human depravity at it's finest. God help us.

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  2. Disgusting. When you aren't a child of God, you are a child of satan. Like it or not. There is either God or satan, no 'common ground' or neutrality. Even in a worldview that supposedly doesn't 'adhere' to God, still adheres to God. Ironic isn't 'atheists'? You can't escape Him no matter what, caves in the mountains won't help you. Even in hell you can't because Jesus holds the keys.
    Oh I pray for your souls daily and hope one day you will pray for them too. How can I help Brendan?

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  3. Hi Siri. Please report "F*** your F***ing God..." to Facebook. To do this, go to the page, and then on the right, click on the star/arrow down button, then click "Report Page", then "I think this shouldn't be on Facebook", then "Credible threat of violence", (or "Religious hate speech"). After doing this, you should get a report from Facebook in a few days. If they say it's not a violation of FB Community Standards then the next step you could take is to report it to your local city or state police station via FB. And of course pray because this is a spiritual battle.

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  4. Facebook and its double standard. Its makes me sick, that I want to puke. Where's the justice when we need it most? I can tell that Facebook will get sued for this in court soon if they don't see this as a major issue.
    If someone displays and talks about my wife like that in public, I'll definitely would be offended and will demand justice; I would even call the police.

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  5. Virgin Mary Should've Aborted violates none of facebooks Terms of Service nor Community Standards. The page is an interpretation of a fictional character, a character is not a person and does not have rights. I could make a page called "Harry Potter is evil" and it wouldn't get taken down. It is also not targeting or mocking anyone based on religion, race or anything else other than the way that they behave. Personally I don't feel any of the pages content is graphic, but I assume you're referring to the fetus on the cover. Well that's no more graphic than the image of Christ on the cross, and that is plastered everywhere, people even wear it around their necks in gold. And the page definitely does not condone violence or threats.

    Also, the likely reason why the pages targeting Islam are not as popular is because Islam is not as prevalent in the west and English speaking countries, but I will also say that most of the Muslims who have come onto VMSA have been pretty polite, and the Christians are the ones making death threats and insults. So perhaps Muslims are just more secure in their faith. After all, if a petty facebook page can get them this riled up, their faith has to be pretty weak.

    Also, check out the page that I own. "Jesus and Mohammed would make a cute couple" I haven't really been on facebook in over a year though, so there isn't much going on there, but I hope to change that.

    Also, once again, thanks for giving my friends free advertising, they've gone up another hundred likes since you started your campaign.

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    1. //Virgin Mary Should've Aborted violates none of facebooks Terms of Service nor Community Standards.//

      How do you know that?

      // The page is an interpretation of a fictional character, a character is not a person and does not have rights.//

      In order to deny God's existence you're borrowing from the Christian worldview which alone can account for knowledge, truth, and logic.

      //I could make a page called "Harry Potter is evil" and it wouldn't get taken down.//

      Harry Potter isn't real. God is.

      // It is also not targeting or mocking anyone based on religion, race or anything else other than the way that they behave.//

      Not true. It attacks Christianity in a way that is deliberately designed to cause maximum offense.

      // Personally I don't feel any of the pages content is graphic, but I assume you're referring to the fetus on the cover.//

      That and other things.

      // Well that's no more graphic than the image of Christ on the cross, and that is plastered everywhere, people even wear it around their necks in gold.//

      The page and the crucifix are vastly different.

      // And the page definitely does not condone violence or threats.//

      Good. Other pages do as I've mentioned in the article.

      //Also, the likely reason why the pages targeting Islam are not as popular is because Islam is not as prevalent in the west and English speaking countries, but I will also say that most of the Muslims who have come onto VMSA have been pretty polite, and the Christians are the ones making death threats and insults.//

      How would you know that they are true Christians? Making death threats is not Christian behaviour. But again you're stealing from the Christian worldview which has a basis for objective morality.

      // So perhaps Muslims are just more secure in their faith. After all, if a petty facebook page can get them this riled up, their faith has to be pretty weak.//

      Christians that truly love Jesus should protest the page. It's because we know that God is real that we bother to take action.

      //Also, check out the page that I own. "Jesus and Mohammed would make a cute couple" I haven't really been on facebook in over a year though, so there isn't much going on there, but I hope to change that.//

      Another page designed to be as offensive as possible. You know you're fulfilling Romans chapter 1?

      //Also, once again, thanks for giving my friends free advertising, they've gone up another hundred likes since you started your campaign.//

      You are welcome. The more "likes" the page gets the more people will be turned off atheism because they'll be repulsed by the moral depravity that results.

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    2. Lucy - I noticed too on Google plus you said that you could see nothing wrong with burning down churches. Care to elaborate on that?

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    3. I know that because I know the page and I know facebooks community standards, I don't really know what you don't understand there. Yes, it is true, it mocks Christianity, but it doesn't mock Christians, there is a big difference.

      Also, the page is back up. You should check it out.

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    4. I see that it's back. Facebook's hypocrisy continues.

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